Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:00:46 -0500 From: Simon Nathan To: w.j.markerink@a1.nl, Simon Nathan Subject: Re: widelux f-7 filters reply to typeconcious hollander Willem-Jan Markerink wrote: > On 7 Jan 99 at 23:49, grays@bellatlantic.net wrote: > > > I am looking to buy a used set of filters for my widelux . Also if > > anyone out there has a red 25 homemade filter that they no longer use I > > would be interested in buying it . thanks, > > I have seen a used filter set for sale at US$125....pretty stiff IMO....8-)) > > Don't know these filters in detail, but I might be able to make you > a #25 (thin resin)....if you can live with more fragile foil, even #29 > and #89B (#87C for real infrared is available in more sturdy foil). dear willem-jan: you of all the type-size- panoramists must have observed the name frits rotgans in one of my rebuttal messages. somewhere i have the filter holder for the widelux. it is circular with a foot extended to place it in track on rotating platform, i recall. the filters screw into that. i knew shozo nakayama, first designer. he was korean passing with japanese name. the japanese banks knew this and therefore he never got financing he needed to make it fly. maybe i have a filter or two. i never considered the widelux but a toy, but an effective one. on the 120 panon leitz wetzlar mounted an f.35 elmar so that camera was sharper. we disagreed on where infinity should be. Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:46:51 +0200 From: Eddy Willems Subject: widelux 1500 To: Panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au Send reply to: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au I recently bought a secondhand Widelux 1500 Now I am looking for a manual and a list of accesoires for this camera, can anyone help me? best regards Eddy Willems Hasseltweg 92 bus 5 B - 3600 Genk tel. 00 32 89 308912 fax. 00 32 89 308913 gsm 00 32 496 252913 http://home.worldonline.be/~ewillems willems.eddy@pandora.be Date forwarded: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:33:26 +0200 (MET DST) Forwarded by: Steven.Morton@sci.monash.edu.au Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:29:31 -0400 From: Bill Barton Subject: Re: widelux 1500 To: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au Send reply to: wbill@bellatlantic.net Eddy, I got some information from "Widelux" last year from Japan, it seems they will sell direct from the factory.... Address and contact name follows below. PANON CAMERA SHOKO CO.,LTD. 24-3. 2-chome, Azusawa, Itabashi-ku Tokyo, Japan Export Manger S. Kubota Hope this helps......... Bill Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:34:13 +0000 From: simon nathan Subject: Re: Swing Lens cameras from 1974 To: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au Reply-to: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au Richard Schneider wrote: > What swing-lens panoramic cameras were available in 1974? I assume > the Widelux was on the market - which model might it have been? > > This information is need for an article being written for the next > (September) issue of IAPP's Panorama magazine. > > This article is being authored by an archivist from the Nixon > Presidential Materials Project of the National Archives. On Nixon's > last day in office, several swing-lens panoramic shots were taken at > the final press conference and outside the White House showing the > helicopter waiting for the president and his family. > > Interesting stuff. > > Thanks, > > Richard richard- and in late fifties in japan as i had panon which i selected over widelux because it was 120. simon nathan Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:05:47 +0000 From: simonwide Subject: Re: Widelux: The Rise and Fall (?) To: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au Reply-to: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au ralph fuerbringer wrote: > > From: Richard Schneider > > Reply-To: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au > > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:27:19 -0400 > > To: panorama-l@sci.monash.edu.au > > Cc: senator@gci.net > > Subject: Widelux: The Rise and Fall (?) > > > > Dear List-serve Members, > > > > I would like to issue a call to all potential contributors for an article to > > be published in IAPP's official publication, Panorama Magazine. I am looking > > to featuring this in the December issue. > > > > The article would be centered on the Widelux, its rise and more recently its > > fall. > > > > I am not 100% sure whether the company is still in existence, but even if it > > were it is only a shadow of its former self. I have been in touch with Tetsu > > (?) of Nippon Photo Clinic in New York and his assessment - to my ears - > > appears grim. > > > > Yet for many years, the Widelux was the camera of choice for panoramic > > photographers who did not want to lug around a Cirkut Camera, for instance. > > Its portability helped give rise to new uses of the panoramic image, including > > aerial and vertical shooting. It certainly broke new ground and enabled a > > whole generation of photographers to become acquainted with panoramic imaging, > > later graduating perhaps, to an Alpa, Cyclopan or Roundshot. > > > > The Widelux was and is an important chapter in the history of panoramic > > photography. Its history should be documented before the company indeed goes > > under. > > > > All submissions will be considered, whether or not you are currently an IAPP > > member. To find out more about submission guidelines to Panorama, please visit > > the IAPP web site at > > http://www.panphoto.com/panorama.html > > > > Thanks, > > > > Richard Schneider > > Panorama Editor > > > > While an article on the Widelux would not be out of place, to claim > it broke new ground is ridiculous. the 120 Panon and Panox in the fifties > were true groundbreakeers. They were technologically superior and a more > versatile tool. I had a Panox. In addition to convential panoramic > photography the Panox with an exposure of 2 seconds allowed a subject to be > sharp at the beginning and end with marvelous streaks from moving in sync > with the lens. An example would be entering a bank and then going to the > tellers window. quality wise the camera was superb.While the 35 is ok, the 2 > 1/4 Widelux in particular was and is a mess. The Panoptic while > mechnanically not on a par with the Panon/Panox sported a 140 degree finder > that beats the pants off anything before or since in that respect .it could > also be hacked to get a top optic. > so put the Widelux in its place: a popular,fair performer that produced some > great pictures almost in spite of itself. It was no pioneer and leacked > the craftsmanship that distiquished the Panon/Panox. mention of these would > not be out-of-place in an article devoted to a lesser but more prolific > follower embraced by photographers who had no choice. > so what happened to Panon/ Panox and Panofic? Panorama didnt have the > popularity it has today. there just was't that much demand for speciality > products whose precison came at a relatively high price. Widelux simply > downgraded the quality to a level that was acceptable and profitable,35mm > for the most part .Rumored dead six times previously I would like to know > how it lasted decades in the quirky specialty market for panorama cameras.i > make a linear one myself, the vistashift-612 with 35 to 55 apo-grandagons. > http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/vista612.html > so what happened to my Panox? Cinerama consisted of three normal angle > movies shot and projected at the same time. they needed a still camera that > give that 1440 degree effect. they made me an offer i couldnt refuse. anyway > at heart i'm just plain linear. I like buildings. I never have the time to > arrange them in a semicircle so they come out right in the picture. ralph rrrright, rrrralph-canon made panon change name to panox. i have used panon, panox, panophic models since mid fifties. i knew shozo nakayama from widelux co in japan and in los angeles when he he was pitching his movie process.....correction,though. shutter setting of "2" was effective shutter speed of 1/2 second at any given point.