FROM: rmonagha@smu.edu (Robert Monaghan) SUBJECT: problems with searches or why FAQs etc Re: 'classic" FAQ DATE: 25 Feb 2001 15:30:55 -0600 ORGANIZATION: Southern Methodist University NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format yes, an interesting issue I've struggled with too - the problems include: folks drop their sites, lose interest and delete files and photos etc. some even graduate (;-) and so their sites are lost, links broken etc so we potentially lose the accumulated organized FAQs (e.g., with help from Doug Pibel I recovered the "lost" Yashica FAQ by Chris Mullen and archived it on my site)... companies buy and sell services like egroups (to Yahoo) and DejaNews (to Google) and so on; there is no guarantee that some executive will decide that 6 months of dejanews is "enough" and drop the rest off line etc. or that the original services will not be dropped or heavily modified/changed with volumes in the gigabytes per day, and more growth coming, USENET is just one costly service to maintain and archive for modest ad income... when mailing lists like Topica's Cameramakers switch services to Yahoo, their archives may be lost, as has happened with Bronysaurus and other lists... the "haystack to needles ratio" varys a lot; you might get a literal million hits on the topic of filters, and give up after looking at the first 300 listed hits when the ones you want are farther back in the pile "thread drift" means lots of threads change topics without changing the headers, so you can't go by titles for contents of many messages etc. repeated quotations mean that you might get a string of dozens of hits, each of which is the same basic message requoted in the reply saying "me too", not too useful finally, not everything is on USENET; I spend some hours every month posting tables of info from various books (I buy 3 to 5+ photobooks/week from mostly used bookstores) and other sources - this last week info on linhof early models not on the net (per inquiries by emailer) or Stephen Gandy's site, and a table of 1956 TLRs in my mf/tlr.html pages, and a table of early 6x6cm slide projectors etc. This info all adds up over time to create a unique resource merging hard to find resources with postings etc... in short, I suspect the problems will increasingly become the inability to find what we want from the current "dumb" search programs, or the fact that what we want isn't on the WWW - yet... solutions welcome ;-) grins bobm -- * Robert Monaghan POB752182 Dallas Tx 75275-2182 rmonagha@mail.smu.edu * * Third Party 35mm Lenses: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/third/index.html * * Medium Format Cameras: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/index.html megasite*