John Horowy Bergger Products 815-282-9876 Fax 815-282-2982 sales@bergger.com FROM: BerBer SUBJECT: Re: Berrger Film Info? DATE: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:05:03 GMT NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format John, Why can't I find your web site?? BerBer John Horowy wrote: > Bergger BPF200 film (sheetfilm) is currently available at the > following locations: > Abbey Camera > B&H Photo Video > Bostick & Sullivan > Freestyle Sales Co > Helix > Samy's (3 Locations) > > We are establishing more retail locations. If at any time you feel > you're not getting the service, or the selection you want, contact me > directly. > > Retailers are not always willing to carry a full line of materials. In > those cases we will sell direct. > > Of course it never hurts if you go to the retailer of your choice and > ask them to stock a certain product. > > We care about your B/W business... > > Kind Regards, > > John Horowy > Bergger Products, Inc. > www.bergger.com > > On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 02:06:41 GMT, "Mark Westling" > wrote: > > >Any idea where I can find info on Berrger films on the web? > > > >TIA, > > > >Mark Westling > > > > > > FROM: THOM-B@webtv.net (THOM) SUBJECT: Re: Berrger Film Info? DATE: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:45:57 -0700 (PDT) ORGANIZATION: WebTV Subscriber NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format Here is the link ~ ~THOM~ http://bostick-sullivan.com/commerce/film.htm FROM: wells46@attglobal.net SUBJECT: Re: Berrger Film Info? DATE: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:11:09 GMT ORGANIZATION: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:50:52 GMT, BerBer wrote: >John, > >I suggest you check your sight. www.bergger.com does not resolve to >anything. I can't locate the site. > >BerBer > I've had no problem finding the above website, but if you do I suggest trying www.bergger.fr. Looks exactly the same as the .com site. Is it John? Chuck Wells FROM: Pam Niedermayer SUBJECT: Re: darkroom negs./ digital negs., Bergger DATE: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:12:40 GMT ORGANIZATION: Pinehill Softworks Inc. NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format Thank you so much, Tillman, I'll pass this on to the large format group, as well as use it myself in a couple of months. Pam Tillman Crane wrote: > > Pam, > we use the begger bfp200 at the mammoth camera workshop and usually rate it > at 100 or even 80 depending on how you like to make you negs. for alt > process i would suggest 80. we have used xtol, hc110, sprint, and id 11 on > it. all work fine. use the suggested times for super xx if you can find it. > we found that you can't over develop it too much. it takes a lot of coxing > to get extremely high contrast with it. i kow that patrick alt has used a > lot of it with great results. > > i was responding to jill note on teh begger ortho film. that is tremendous > film and thier paper is pretty great, espically the warm tone graded paper. > tillman crane > > >After I use up most of my frozen stock on a couple of long road trips next > >month, I plan to buy some Bergger. Any recommendations on a good starting EI? > >I've heard that BPF200 at 100 works quite well. Also, what developer did > >you use? > > > >Thanks, > >Pam > > > >PS John Horowy of Bergger has been habiting the > >rec.photo.equipment.large-format > >newsgroup lately. We're trying to convince him to do some of the testing with > >developers and such, publish it on his web site. > > > >Jenfieldny@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> I just spent many hours in the darkroom vs Dan's 3 minutes at his > >>computer. I > >> used Bergger film for the first time and was very impressed with it. The > >> positives are beautiful and I will make the negs. from them on Thursday. > >>For > >> me the difference is preference, I prefer to be in the darkroom. I still > >> want to know how to do the negs by computer, but do not really see it in my > >> future to close up the darkroom! I totally enjoyed myself. I can not > >>say the > >> same for a day at the computer. Even when I was first learning how to use > >> the darkroom, I would leave exhausted but happy. To me sitting at the > >> computer all day is more mechanical and not as much fun as getting wet. > >> However, I know a lot of you differ with this opinion but if you like being > >> in the darkroom and you have not tried the film yet (they are not paying me > >> for this!), I recommend it. > >> Jill -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 512-236-8143 fax http://www.pinehill.com FROM: Rolfe Tessem SUBJECT: Re: Bergger BPF200 DATE: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:49:22 -0400 ORGANIZATION: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc. NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > Thank you so much, Tillman, I'll pass this on to the large format group, as well > as use it myself in a couple of months. Have you tried a pyro with it? > > Pam > > Tillman Crane wrote: > > > > Pam, > > we use the begger bfp200 at the mammoth camera workshop and usually rate it > > at 100 or even 80 depending on how you like to make you negs. for alt > > process i would suggest 80. we have used xtol, hc110, sprint, and id 11 on > > it. all work fine. use the suggested times for super xx if you can find it. > > we found that you can't over develop it too much. it takes a lot of coxing > > to get extremely high contrast with it. i kow that patrick alt has used a > > lot of it with great results. This past weekend I ran a few tests with Bergger BPF200 exposed at EI 100 and processed with Rollo Pyro in a Jobo ATL-1000. The results were outstanding, far exceeding my expectations. I'd recommend that anyone with the inclination give this combo a whirl. The specifics I used were: 5 minute water prewet, 7 minutes in Rollo Pyro 1:2:50 at 70 degrees, 1 minute plain water stop bath, 6 minute fix in Photographers Formulary TF4, and 5 minutes of rinse on the Jobo. Test exposures printed perfectly on Ilford Multigrade IV with no filters. -- Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions, Inc. rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street (212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014 FROM: viewcam@wwa.com (John Horowy) SUBJECT: Re: More from Kodak re: LF Film Changes... DATE: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:17:41 GMT ORGANIZATION: Verio NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.large-format Okay Boys and Girls, Bergger Products cares about your business..Simple as that... We continue to stock BPF200 in all sizes from 4x5 through 20x24, as long as we have a market . Soon to introduce 35mm and 120 roll sizes. So there are choices beyond Kodak and Ilford. John Horowy Bergger Products, Inc. www.bergger.com On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:09:01 GMT, "Mark" wrote: >Mark, > >At this time, only the types of films announced at Photokina will be >available in the new single-sheet Readyload format (late 4th quarter in >'00): > >Reversal >(Chrome) > >PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100S >Saturated colors and natural-looking skin tones; fine grain >Tech Pub: E-164 Catalog Number 158 8656 > >PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100VS >Vivid saturation at ISO 100; extremely sharp >Tech Pub: E-163 Catalog Number 825 4328 > >EKTACHROME 100 Plus Professional Film / EPP >Moderately enhanced color saturation; pleasing skin tones >Tech Pub: E-113 Catalog Number 800 0812 > >EKTACHROME 100 Professional Film / EPN >Accurate natural colors; reduced reflectance that adversely affects >color reproduction >Tech Pub: E-27 Catalog Number 114 2017 > >EKTACHROME 64T Professional Film / EPY >Outstanding color accuracy under tungsten illumination; superb >reciprocity performance simplifies long exposure shoots >Tech Pub: E-130 Catalog Number 140 9986 > >Color Negative > >PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 160VC Film >Enhanced color; excellent skin tones, wide exposure latitude Color >Negative PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 160VC Film >Enhanced color; excellent skin tones, wide exposure latitude Tech Pub: >E-190 Catalog Number 834 6926 > >Additional products are being considered for introduction in Readyload >single-sheet format, but we are not prepared to make any announcements >at this time. > >Thank you for visiting our Kodak web site. If you should have any >questions on Kodak products or services, please be sure to revisit our >site as we are continually adding information to enhance our service. > >Thom Bell >Kodak Information Center (USA) >Kodak Professional > >800 Lee Road Door C >Rochester, NY 14650-3109 > >1-800-242-2424 ext. 19 (Monday-Friday, 9am-7pm EST) >http://www.kodak.com/go/professional > > > > >Original message follows: >------------------------- > >Terrance, > >Thanks for your prompt response. I've posted your response on >rec.photo.equipment.large-format on the Usenet; many large format >photographers have been asking about this issue and your response, while >unfortunate, clarifies things. > >Can you follow up with any information on ReadyLoads? We've heard 4x5 TMX >is being discontinued in ReadyLoads along with a >number of color emulsions (E-6 and C-41). > >Mark Westling >mwestling@earthlink.net > > >