Return-Path: Delivered-To: wjmarkerink@mail1.a1.nl Received: from localhost (attackkittens.boswellonline.nl [213.171.64.213]) by mail1.a1.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BA2179C779 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:10:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail1.a1.nl ([213.171.64.3]) by localhost (backup [213.171.64.213]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 13676-07 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:10:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.38]) by mail1.a1.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 692F9179C76B for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2004 10:06:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.156] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2004 10:06:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: mike@gotthard.co.uk X-Apparently-To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26608 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2004 10:06:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2004 10:06:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.50) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2004 10:06:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n21.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2004 10:05:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.117] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2004 10:05:53 -0000 To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.50 From: "skefkobearings" X-Originating-IP: 193.237.47.207 X-Yahoo-Profile: skefkobearings MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com; contact pinzgauer_td-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:05:49 -0000 Subject: [pinzgauer_td] Re: Converting a P80 to a 2,5TDI .... Reply-To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned by a pack of attack kittens for Boswell Online B.V. Hello Dave, Did anything bebbcome of this enquiry with ATL? Best Regards Mike Hughes UK --- In pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com, "turbopinz" =20 wrote: > Hello all >=20 > And with the dawning of the new group, I received an email from=20 > Automotive Technik, in response to an email sent to them in=20 August,=20 > regarding converting a P80 engine to the new 2.5 TDI.... though=20 it=20 > was only comfirming some details on my truck (trans and 12v=20 system),=20 > it is a step forward in the factory taking interest in=20 > supporting privately owned TDs.=20 >=20 > I will followup with a phone call in a few days, and report=20 anything=20 > I may learn. >=20 > Dave >=20 > btw...for those that may not know, A/T does not sell anything for=20 the=20 > earlier gas Pinzes ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->=20 Yahoo! Autos. Everything you need to know about buying=20 or selling a car. 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Reply-To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1671339720-1099927590=:11860" X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned by a pack of attack kittens for Boswell Online B.V. --0-1671339720-1099927590=:11860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike What came out of it last year was that ATL did not have a conversion for the TDI engine, but did do a "in shop" conversion to the P93 engine. I haven't gone any further with them. Dave Dunn skefkobearings wrote: Hello Dave, Did anything bebbcome of this enquiry with ATL? Best Regards Mike Hughes UK --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com --0-1671339720-1099927590=:11860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Mike
What came out of it last year was that ATL did not have a conversion for the TDI engine, but did do a "in shop" conversion to the P93 engine.  I haven't gone any further with them.
 
Dave Dunn

skefkobearings <mike@gotthard.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Dave,
Did anything bebbcome of this enquiry with ATL?

Best Regards

Mike Hughes
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Reply-To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned by a pack of attack kittens for Boswell Online B.V. Hi guys, I've bought a VW AHD 2,5Tdi engine with 8000 km on it. This is the exact same as Volvo D5252T but with different turbo, dieselpump and el-box. The plan is to use the Volvo pump, turbo and el-box and get 100 Kw out of it. The engine is about 15-18cm shorter than the old DV (stock)as it is a 5 cylinder. It bolts on to the transmission. Engine mounts will have to be altered somewhat, but it looks ok. Fan will be replaced with an electric one. Oil pan will have to be a welded mix of the old one and the new. The only unsolved problem is the intercooler and the tubing for it... Right now I am thinking of making a new radiator which is longer so it is possible to fit an intercooler on the side - like on several of the Land Rovers.. Any comments? Chris. P.S. Our 716 works exactly the way David Dunn described. It is also what my manual says. -----Original Message----- From: skefkobearings [mailto:mike@gotthard.co.uk]=20 Sent: 8. november 2004 11:06 To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pinzgauer_td] Re: Converting a P80 to a 2,5TDI .... Hello Dave, Did anything bebbcome of this enquiry with ATL? Best Regards Mike Hughes UK --- In pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com, "turbopinz" wrote: > Hello all >=20 > And with the dawning of the new group, I received an email from=20 > Automotive Technik, in response to an email sent to them in August,=20 > regarding converting a P80 engine to the new 2.5 TDI.... though it=20 > was only comfirming some details on my truck (trans and 12v system),=20 > it is a step forward in the factory taking interest in supporting=20 > privately owned TDs. >=20 > I will followup with a phone call in a few days, and report anything=20 > I may learn. >=20 > Dave >=20 > btw...for those that may not know, A/T does not sell anything for the=20 > earlier gas Pinzes ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Autos. Everything you need to know about buying or selling a car. 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Reply-To: pinzgauer_td@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-421877532-1099951906=:51642" X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned by a pack of attack kittens for Boswell Online B.V. --0-421877532-1099951906=:51642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Chris I'm glad someone is following up on doing the 2.5TDI conversion. The engine isn't imported into the US in any cars here, though a company has been importing the engine for other conversions. Also glad to hear that the engine and trans mate together, ( hope that is true for both manual and auto trans). Changing to a electric fan is easy, I mounted a large one on the rear of the air tunnel, and mounted the controller under the cover above the radiator. ( pics of the fan in the DSD folder). What about purchasing an oil pan from ATL? Or do they want a fortune for it? I was wondering how these engines perform without the innercooler. Definitely keep us posted on your progress.... Any pics? Dave Dunn USA Christopher Soelberg wrote: Hi guys, I've bought a VW AHD 2,5Tdi engine with 8000 km on it. This is the exact same as Volvo D5252T but with different turbo, dieselpump and el-box. The plan is to use the Volvo pump, turbo and el-box and get 100 Kw out of it. The engine is about 15-18cm shorter than the old DV (stock)as it is a 5 cylinder. It bolts on to the transmission. Engine mounts will have to be altered somewhat, but it looks ok. Fan will be replaced with an electric one. Oil pan will have to be a welded mix of the old one and the new. The only unsolved problem is the intercooler and the tubing for it... Right now I am thinking of making a new radiator which is longer so it is possible to fit an intercooler on the side - like on several of the Land Rovers.. Any comments? Chris. P.S. Our 716 works exactly the way David Dunn described. It is also what my manual says. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! 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Hi Chris
I'm glad someone is following up on doing the 2.5TDI conversion. The engine isn't imported into the US in any cars here, though a company has been importing the engine for other conversions.
 Also glad to hear that the engine and trans mate together, ( hope that is true for both manual and auto trans).
Changing to a electric fan is easy, I mounted a large one on the rear of the air tunnel, and mounted the controller under the cover above the radiator. ( pics of the fan in the DSD folder).
What about purchasing an oil pan from ATL? Or do they want a fortune for it?
I was wondering how these engines perform without the innercooler.
 
Definitely keep us posted on your progress.... Any pics?
 
Dave Dunn
USA
 
 
 


Christopher Soelberg <christopher.soelberg@lyddemper.net> wrote:
Hi guys,

I've bought a VW AHD 2,5Tdi engine with 8000 km on it.
This is the exact same as Volvo D5252T but with different turbo, dieselpump
and el-box.
The plan is to use the Volvo pump, turbo and el-box and get 100 Kw out of
it.

The engine is about 15-18cm shorter than the old DV (stock)as it is a 5
cylinder.
It bolts on to the transmission. Engine mounts will have to be altered
somewhat, but it looks ok. Fan will be replaced with an electric one.
Oil pan will have to be a welded mix of the old one and the new.
The only unsolved problem is the intercooler and the tubing for it...
Right now I am thinking of making a new radiator which is longer so it is
possible to fit an intercooler on the side - like on several of the Land
Rovers..

Any comments?

Chris.

P.S.
Our 716 works exactly the way David Dunn described. It is also what my
manual says.

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