FROM: "Brian & Andrea Carew" SUBJECT: Re: Why Diesel DATE: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:43:46 +1000 ORGANIZATION: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct NEWSGROUPS: aus.cars.offroad "Damien" wrote in message news:393C419C.1540@cheque.uq.edu.au... > Willem-Jan Markerink wrote: > > > > In article , > > "Brian & Andrea Carew" wrote: > > >Petrol engines have more torque for a given capacity in most cases these > > >days. Diesels have nearly all their torque down low in the rev range > > which > > >is more important. The 4.5 Cruiser has about 385nm of torque - but at > > 3500 > > >rpm. > > > > The current V8 4.7L has 434Nm....while the current 4.2L TDi has 430Nm....at > > nearly half the rpm....and increasing this to over 500Nm is easy by only > > increasing intercooler size.... > > All this at nearly twice the mileage when doing serious hard work for long > > distances.... > Actually, the 4.2TD nissan has 330nm of torque. the 3.0l 4cyl nissan has 345nm or torque. (Nissans figures from their brochure). Still a lot of torque. The 4.7 V8 (toyota) has all the 434Nm but at around 3500 - 4000 rpm. Only has around 200nm at 2000 rpm if I can judge from the graphs. The 4.2 TD has 300 - 330 from about 1000rpm to 3500rmp. Nice and fat if you are towing! > Yes, but put a turbo on the 4.7l V8 and you're really talking ;) > Been done. Luxon's make a kit for that engine. Mind blowing torque (and power! ) :) Brian. > bye, > Damien FROM: w.j.markerink@a1.nl (Willem-Jan Markerink) SUBJECT: Re: Why Diesel DATE: Wed, 07 Jun 00 00:08:21 GMT ORGANIZATION: A1 Internet news-server NEWSGROUPS: aus.cars.offroad In article <4iaih8.ls1.ln@cache.cdc.net.au>, "Brian & Andrea Carew" wrote: > >"Damien" wrote in message >news:393C419C.1540@cheque.uq.edu.au... >> Willem-Jan Markerink wrote: >> > >> > In article , >> > "Brian & Andrea Carew" wrote: >> > >Petrol engines have more torque for a given capacity in most cases these >> > >days. Diesels have nearly all their torque down low in the rev range which >> > >is more important. The 4.5 Cruiser has about 385nm of torque - but at 3500 >> > >rpm. >> > >> > The current V8 4.7L has 434Nm....while the current 4.2L TDi has 430Nm....at >> > nearly half the rpm....and increasing this to over 500Nm is easy by only >> > increasing intercooler size.... >> > All this at nearly twice the mileage when doing serious hard work for long >> > distances.... >> > >Actually, the 4.2TD nissan has 330nm of torque. the 3.0l 4cyl nissan has >345nm or torque. (Nissans figures from their brochure). Still a lot of >torque. The 4.7 V8 (toyota) has all the 434Nm but at around 3500 - 4000 rpm. >Only has around 200nm at 2000 rpm if I can judge from the graphs. The 4.2 TD >has 300 - 330 from about 1000rpm to 3500rmp. Nice and fat if you are >towing! It's the wonder of doing 160km/h on highways, and not slowing down for the most gnarly hills, while even cars that passed you before on the flat are forced into the right lane. And that's an overloaded 3500kg with two 250L Thule skiboxes on top....;-)) (yes, I weighted it, and I wish I hadn't!....:-)) > >> Yes, but put a turbo on the 4.7l V8 and you're really talking ;) >> >Been done. Luxon's make a kit for that engine. Mind blowing torque (and >power! ) :) My Dutch shop sells US$5k tuning kits that convert the 4.2 TDi (24 valve) to nearly 300hp & 700Nm....still at low rpm's....;-)) That's still specifically better than VW's amazing TDi plans....a 5.0l V10 (313hp/750Nm) and a 6.0l V12 (382hp/torque unknown)....but it's always good to know how much potential is available....;-)) -- Bye, Willem-Jan Markerink The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understand [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!] FROM: w.j.markerink@a1.nl (Willem-Jan Markerink) SUBJECT: Re: Why Diesel DATE: Wed, 07 Jun 00 00:13:38 GMT ORGANIZATION: A1 Internet news-server NEWSGROUPS: aus.cars.offroad In article <4iaih8.ls1.ln@cache.cdc.net.au>, "Brian & Andrea Carew" wrote: > >Actually, the 4.2TD nissan has 330nm of torque. the 3.0l 4cyl nissan has >345nm or torque. (Nissans figures from their brochure). Still a lot of >torque. The 4.7 V8 (toyota) has all the 434Nm but at around 3500 - 4000rpm. >Only has around 200nm at 2000 rpm if I can judge from the graphs. The 4.2 TD >has 300 - 330 from about 1000rpm to 3500rmp. Nice and fat if you are >towing! Mmm....since you guys don't get the latest 4.2TDi Toyota yet (1HD-FTE, intercooled, HDJ-100), I assume you are talking about the Nissan 4.2 (non-turbo?), or the 'old' Toyota 1HD-FT (non-intercooled, HDJ-80)? The European spec for the 1HD-FTE is 430Nm, from 1400rpm till 2800 or 3500 I believe.... -- Bye, Willem-Jan Markerink The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understand [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!] FROM: w.j.markerink@a1.nl (Willem-Jan Markerink) SUBJECT: Re: Why Diesel DATE: Wed, 07 Jun 00 00:01:20 GMT ORGANIZATION: A1 Internet news-server NEWSGROUPS: aus.cars.offroad In article <393C419C.1540@cheque.uq.edu.au>, Damien wrote: >Willem-Jan Markerink wrote: >> >> In article , >> "Brian & Andrea Carew" wrote: >> >Petrol engines have more torque for a given capacity in most cases these >> >days. Diesels have nearly all their torque down low in the rev range which >> >is more important. The 4.5 Cruiser has about 385nm of torque - but at 3500 >> >rpm. >> >> The current V8 4.7L has 434Nm....while the current 4.2L TDi has 430Nm....at >> nearly half the rpm....and increasing this to over 500Nm is easy by only >> increasing intercooler size.... >> All this at nearly twice the mileage when doing serious hard work for long >> distances.... > >Yes, but put a turbo on the 4.7l V8 and you're really talking ;) You'd still have no extra torque down low....only that damn slushbox saves you from stalling....;-)) -- Bye, Willem-Jan Markerink The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understand [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]